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RE: Content
10/29/2006
Karl Sanger
IMHO the chart Poppajohn created from the work of others is outstanding. I am only writing to correct
what I believe to be one important historical omission. We all stand on the shoulders of the work of someone
else. Indeed, at least in the antique and collectible tool world, the concept of a "Type Study" was pioneered,
financed and completed by Roger K. Smith, Athol Mass. He deserves to receive full credit. In his tool collecting
world, it was a labor of exploration for knowledge and the need to understand versus the desire to influence
which plane one buys. I'm sure Roger would be pleased to see the new chart. It summarizes Roger's work and
the add on by others in a manner most spreadsheet enthusiasts will love.
Ed., 10/30/2006: Well-spoken, and incorporated into introduction.
02/15/2007
J. Davey
DONE. Blade logo 1909 only - "STANLEY" 5/32" tall - nothing else
10/30/2006 (Some posted)
Jim Davey
There are a few changes that don't seem to be in any of the Type Studies which you may be interested in including:
J Davey 11/01/2006 (Not yet posted)
J Davey 11/04/2006
J Davey 11/05/2006
DONE. Regarding the second chart:
#4 1/2 H & #5 1/2 H have 2 1/4" Iron not 2 3/8 as listed in John Walter's
book. (posted)
DONE. There is an error with the Depth Adj. Nut. As far as I know:
The Pat date dropped off and the thread changed from right to left at the
same time - end of Type 6. Type 6A had no date and lefthand thread. I have
seen small Nuts with no date and right hand thread but they may have been
non-Stanley.
Hi John,
DONE. Early 5 1/2's had a 2 1/4 cutter but later had 2 3/8. The change may have
been in the forties - can anyone help with that?
Now *that* is slicin' and dicin', my friend. Love the detail. Thank you!
I wonder how the narrower blade was justified (sloppy, I'd think) unless casting width also changes. Is there any potential mixup here with 5-1/2 and 5-1/2H .. ??
Posted in unresolved "additional info" link.
11/05/2006DONE. Type 6A should be last of the Pat dates in the nut as per Smith first line of notes on Type 7. (not Type 6 as I said) - I checked on my #3 and it has all nibs and RH thread and Pat date. You could run the Right hand thread as "grey" into the start of Type 7
Spike Cornelius Sure enough, my type 11 has a 2-1/4 inch blade!
JDavey
11/7/2006
DONE. The Circular Hole was at top of Blade until Pat '92 - but a few have been
observed with the "Two-line" Logo and Hole at bottom. From this I would
conclude that they introduced the change when the patent was lodged and then
changed the stamp when approved in April '92.
DONE. So, on your chart you could have "Hole at Top" finishing end '91 or you
could have a little Grey in there - but not much. Probably better to finish
"Hole at Top" at end '91.
DONE. P.S. did you know that early back iron/cap iron screws didn't have any knurling? I think Type 6 would have been the last without the knurls.
JDavey
11/8/2006
Attached is a pic of some frogs from Type 5 on left, two early Type 6, Type
7 to 1920's. They show a few variations not included in any Study before.
Note the shape of the casting at top of Frog around the Lateral Adjuster.
RE: Lever Cap Colors
10/29/2006
Ed Minch:
The word STANLEY was added to the lever cap in 1925 with the type
13. The orange color was added just after that, along with the
advent of the kidney shaped screw hole. In the late 50's the color
was changed to yellow and I have only seen the yellow on any plane
painted blue, or the later maroon (70's). there is one anomaly -
Stanley had a 4 sized and a 5 sized plane with a bed made of bent
steel so that it would not break if dropped, the S4 and S5. To go
along with this feature they included a malleable iron lever cap, and
it's logo background was painted red - these planes were made n
1925-42 and I have never seen an early one to know if it had no paint
in the logo.
10/29/2006
Poppajohn
DONE. Found note on 'net that only Type 16 had black logo background.
DONE. Fix the frog receiver smaller bearing surface - terminates 1907 in gray.
DONE. Type 5, 1885-1888 - first lateral, no disc (crossbar), 2 patent dates
DONE. Type 6 is only 1888 - 1890, then 6A 1891-92
Ed. 10/30/2006: None yet incorporated into megachart. Keep 'em coming!
I've seen both red and orange (faded red?) Comments?
RE: MAC Browsers
11/17/2006
Thanks to feedback and patient exchange with Scott Stager, we found and repaired the silly HTML
differential that was causing the misalignment problem. Please report if you see other oddities.